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Sniper 12:50 Fri Jan 9
Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
So says Gordon Taylor. How many minutes silence will this get?!

From the been:


Gordon Taylor has risked further controversy by appearing to compare the Ched Evans case with the Hillsborough tragedy.
After the convicted rapist's move to Oldham collapsed, the Professional Footballers' Association chief executive was asked about Evans's insistence that he is innocent.
"He wouldn't have been the first person to be found guilty, maintained their innocence and been proved right. We know what happened with Hillsborough," Taylor told BBC Sport.
"It's now unravelling and very different to how it was portrayed at the time - indeed by the police at the time."
Following a long campaign by families, new inquests are being held to investigate how 96 Liverpool fans died as a result of the Hillsborough stadium disaster on 15 April 1989.
Click here to listen to Taylor's comments.
Taylor did not elaborate further on this point, but said it would be "very difficult" for Evans, 26, to stay in football following the League One club's change of heart.
More than 70,000 people had signed a petition calling on Oldham not to sign Evans, while a number of campaigners and politicians voiced opposition to the move.
"Having done a sentence, he is entitled to return", Taylor said. "There will have to be quite a difference in the tide of opinion [for him to play professional football again] but I do think it may help when they know he is genuinely apologetic for the consequences of what happened.
"He's been put through the wringer and the minute you show any sympathy for Ched people will say 'what about the other parties concerned?'.
Would any League One/Two side sign Evans?
Read the responses when BBC Sport contacted all 48 clubs.
"Nobody's forgetting them. But as far as he's concerned, he's looking to keep himself fit. This Oldham situation has not made things any better for him so it may well now take some time."
The former Manchester City and Sheffield United striker was jailed in April 2012 for raping a woman, 19, at a north Wales hotel in 2011. He was released in October 2014 after serving half of a five-year sentence.
On Thursday Evans apologised for the "effects of his actions", but continued to maintain his innocence. He later issued a further statement blaming "mob rule" for the deal's collapse, claiming "the more radical elements of our society" had the "desired influence on some sponsors".
Oldham chief executive Neil Joy said there had been "vile and abusive threats, including death threats, made to our fans, sponsors and staff" over the proposed signing.

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Mr Polite 9:20 Sat Jan 10
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
No.

Can you elaborate?

delboy 6:53 Sat Jan 10
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
lee hughes killed someone serves time....plays football again, ched evans rapes a woman who has no recollection of the night not allowed to play, tyson rapes allowed to box on.....see the point im making here

Private Dancer 6:51 Sat Jan 10
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
claret n blue

Don't forget to use the word 'convicted' will you...oh sorry, you never.

Mrkxxx 4:29 Sat Jan 10
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
I've read that some of the threats made to Oldham staff, included raping members of their families, specifically naming them also..

What is fucking wrong with these people?!

So, you are outraged that someone convicted of rape should be offered employment, so you threaten that employers family with rape itself? can't quite get my head around that one, there are some deranged people out there..

claret n blue 4:22 Sat Jan 10
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
I think what Ched Evans is going through now is about right when considering his conviction.

He is a convicted rapist who is struggling to find work, as it should be! I think any convicted rapist will go through the same ordeal, professional footballer or not. At some point, someone is going to take a chance on him.

Mr Polite 12:46 Sat Jan 10
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
Of course there isn't



... If you discount the way Scousers think

Cheezey Bell-End 12:20 Sat Jan 10
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
Just saw the Taylor comments on the BBC news and can see his point and don't think there is anything for anyone to be upset about.

Mr Polite 5:11 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
Yep got to respect Bruce there.


Although I often finding myself liking him

Razzle 4:10 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
As much as I dislike Steve Bruce I think what he has said in the media took a lot of courage.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30742947

boleyn8420 2:33 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
O'm sorry but am I missing something here
"It's now unravelling and very different to how it was portrayed at the time - indeed by the police at the time."

What are people tacking offence at that for. Is it because if you even dare mention Hillsborough nowadays the scouse cunts jump up and down and scream 'how dare you' What Taylor said is just what happened, as in the facts. It was reported at the time by the police that it was the scouse cunts that caused the deaths and they were squaky clean. Now anyone who went to football in the 80s and 90s know how fucking awful the police were to ALL fans so we all knew they were lying about that (not that the scousers were in any way completely innocent either, but god forbid you can say that)

So what was said at the time was incorrect and the analogy Taylor is using was that the case against Evans MAY be as well. Putting two unpalatable facts together may make people uncomfortable but I cannot see what is so wrong about what he said.

Other than offending the poor little scousers sensibilities, which if he has then good. Keep it up Gordon.

AKA ERNIE 2:25 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
P-like that mate much better idea.

Mr Polite 2:23 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
agree with that - in most circumstances.

all this reduce through good behaviour is stupid - it should be increase for bad behaviour.

AKA ERNIE 2:21 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
p-its a tough one mate and in all honesty I have no idea, real answer for me would be to make people serve thier full sentence

Mr Polite 2:15 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
Ern

How would you have him earn a living in the meatime?

Genuine question

AKA ERNIE 1:56 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
I fucking hate taylor but hes done fuck all wrong this time.


Evans should only be allowed to play at the end of his 5yr sentence

DJH 1:51 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
Willtell it is not the substance that is the problem but merely mentioning rape and Hillsborough together knowing what the likely headlines would be.
No matter how relevant he thought it was surely he could see the fall out coming, just like when people mentioning minorities often get taken out of context to what was meant so most people with half a brain would simply steer clear and think of another example to avoid controversy.

w4hammer 1:30 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
Dippers are wailing . Again!

TBF He's a fucking disaster and has been for years- no idea how he's still in that role

10thofMay 1:25 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
DJH,

Agreed he is totally out of touch but he used the Hillsborough analogy because it was relevant to football about a miscarriage of justice. If he had used some obscure case that he was aware of but few other people were it wouldn't have made much sense.

If you actually read or listen to what he says then it is pretty clear and a non story.

Willtell 1:21 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
Are you sure you are reading what was actually said DJH? Hillsborough was merely an example where official verdicts were proven to be wrong. Think about it mate.

DJH 1:08 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
Using Hillsborough as an example once again just shows how out of touch he is, surely knowing the sensitivity of that event only someone pretty stupid would mention it in the same sentence as rape.

I understand totally what he meant and had it been a non-football person saying I might have a bit more sympathy with them but surely he more than anyone should know how he comments would be received in some quarters so you don't say it simple.

That is the problem football almost operates in vacuum that it controls but when loses control you see most of the people within it are pretty clueless about the real world.

Willtell 1:02 Fri Jan 9
Re: Ched Evans is just like the hillsborough disaster
That's right On The Ball. I wonder how many jumped to a conclusion before reading this -

On Thursday Evans apologised for the "effects of his actions", but continued to maintain his innocence. He later issued a further statement blaming "mob rule" for the deal's collapse, claiming "the more radical elements of our society" had the "desired influence on some sponsors".
Oldham chief executive Neil Joy said there had been "vile and abusive threats, including death threats, made to our fans, sponsors and staff" over the proposed signing.

Really! Death threats!

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